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On this edition of Psychex, a deadly force of nature changed her life.

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Dreaming, seeing pictures.

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Now police need her help.

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And know what can find him.

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To speak with the dead.

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I'm an eight foot of water, come get me.

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Ben.

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I can tell you that the earth is going to open up.

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His predictions have come true.

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Now, he says there are catastrophic changes coming in the year 2000.

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And later, a connection to the past through dreams.

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There are unusual special properties about these ancient monuments.

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Scientists call it the Dragon Project.

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And then, is this an alien craft?

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New information suggests it's something else.

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Plus, a remarkable story about the power of healing.

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And why did the government stop its search for extraterrestrial life?

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Welcome to Sightings.

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I'm Tim White.

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There are certain people who seem to have a special psychic gift.

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They don't advertise with a 900 number or with a sign in their front yard.

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They are a remarkable group of super sensitive individuals who all seem to share a similar

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psychic power.

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But the way they believe they became psychic is as different as each individual.

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We don't know how it works.

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I mean, if we did, it wouldn't be mysterious.

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If we knew how it worked, it wouldn't be controversial.

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If we knew how it worked, we'd be using it reliably.

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Let's face it, we don't know very much about how anything up here really works.

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Greta Alexander is one of the world's most respected psychics.

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She's gained the trust of law enforcement officials worldwide for her astounding work

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as a psychic detective.

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Greta claims her mysterious abilities came to her suddenly in an instant.

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Today, she was struck by lightning.

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After that thing has begun happening, I would sense and I would know and I would feel.

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And from that moment on, I began dreaming, seeing pictures, which I know now as clairvoyance,

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and hearing, which is clairaudio, and just feeling inside, which is clairascensory.

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That's how it all started.

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For the past 30 years, Greta has been sought after by police and victims' families for

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help with unsolved cases.

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But sometimes Greta is the initiator.

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She'll have a vision seemingly out of nowhere.

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That was the case in 1993, when a cataclysmic flood swept through Kelowna, Illinois, and

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Greta saw one of its victims.

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And he was just waiting for it to come and get him.

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Yeah, that's exactly what you told me.

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Yeah.

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Come and get me.

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Come and get me, John.

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Come and get me.

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The last thing I remember is, you know, his patch on the side of his shirt hanging on,

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trying to get him above water, which I couldn't.

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We both went under.

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I couldn't hang on any longer and I had to let him go.

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Time as he was only 23.

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He was a rising star in the Kelowna Police Department with a happy home life and a baby

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on the way.

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But it all ended for Ty in a rush of river water during a rescue operation.

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He was in the air when I seen him.

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And he hit the ground and right at the water line and started floating out into the river.

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He became unconscious.

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And that's what caused Ty to not be able to save him.

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By dawn, all hope of finding Ty alive was lost, while his fellow officers dragged the

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river for his body.

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200 miles away, Greta had a vision.

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One of the people had called my office and had said that they had heard on the radio

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that there was an officer that was down or that was in the water and needed help.

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So immediately I felt that I was Ty.

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And immediately I had to call to tell them.

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As we talked, we went on and she used the terms I'm in the water and I'm falling.

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I hit my head.

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I think John was a little mind boggled by the whole thing and you could tell in his voice.

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I had more important things I thought at that time.

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We had 200 rescuers, we had dive teams, dog teams, we had helicopters in the air.

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So we had a lot of things that was going on that I felt was way more important at that

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That afternoon, John Swan was continuing to direct recovery operations from shore.

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Greta was home, trying to stick to her normal routine, but the vision stayed with her.

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Many times even when I'm working a case, I'll be making spaghetti, be cooking in the kitchen

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or doing other things, holding the telephone up to my ear, running the vacuum or putting

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clothes in the laundry and yet directing the people.

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You separate yourself.

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Your mind, you separate yourself.

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But back in Kelowna, the loss of Ty Massey hit the town hard.

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His family waited in the painful limbo of not knowing.

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It was unbelievable to think that you lost a child was unbearable, but to think that

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your child was in the river and no one can find him, it's indescribable.

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Greta continued to call the Kelowna authorities, trying to convince someone, anyone, that she

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knew where to look for Ty.

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Finally, the skeptical fire chief had to admit that Greta's visions were proving to be very

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accurate.

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I'm an eight foot of water, come get me.

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And I was so upset with John, he just wouldn't do what I told him to do.

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I didn't let all this known to everyone because I didn't want to basically the public to get

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the wrong question that John's one uses psychics to do all his rescue.

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I said, that's the case.

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We might as well eliminate a lot of our equipment and just have Greta come to our fire station.

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And I just felt like I got to go up there and do this because he isn't doing it.

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I picked up the cell phone and I was talking and it was Greta again.

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She says, John, she stopped for a second and she says, you're near the water, aren't you?

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And I was standing right at the river.

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And I said, yes, I'm next to the river.

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She stopped for a second.

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She says, I'm just down from that big yellow green thing or that big yellow thing or green

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structure or something big and yellow by you.

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And I go, hmm, I got her this time.

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I said, okay, we're going to go back out.

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And thanks Greta, hung up the phone.

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And I said, she's messed up this time.

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I turned around and there was a big yellow green fire truck right behind me.

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And I go, oh, wow.

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You know, I said, at that time, I'm getting very nervous.

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And because there's too many things she's saying that's made sense.

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Greta had gotten through.

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All that was left was to guide the chief to Thai Massey.

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I told one of my new firefighters, get a pike pole, which is a pole with a hook on it, about

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Go down to the third brush pile above the railroad bridge and get inside the brush pile.

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And you have to go deep about eight foot down and hook time out seeing pulling out.

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They went up to the North command post, got a pike pole, went down to that brush pile,

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reached in and pulled Thai out.

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Greta takes very little credit for her work.

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She says she gives herself over to a higher power, which she calls her angels.

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I always thank my angels because they bring it to me.

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And I always bless them and the family.

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Because I think if that were me, I would want them to leave no stone unturned in order

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to close that door.

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It's actually relatively common that people who see themselves as gifted view their gifts

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as being not really their own, but something brought to them by spirit guides.

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We have to realize is that psychic ability, when it comes to the surface, is not that

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easy to deal with.

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Greta is at peace with her ability.

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Although she first saw Thai as a drowning man, gasping for his last breath, months later

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she had another vision of Thai, reaching out from beyond the grave.

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I think she called to our house.

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She said that she had saw Thai and I can't remember exact words, but said he was so excited.

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It was like he had something to announce, something to say.

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And I just started crying and I said, Greta, we just had our grandson.

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And that was the announcement from spirit.

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God had said, Thai's baby had just been born.

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A new life.

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Coming up next on Cytings.

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We are now going to start seeing a brand new pattern.

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There are episodes of very rapid change occurring in the earth.

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In 1993, Cytings introduced viewers to futurist Gordon Michael Scalgan.

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He made some disturbing predictions about major earth changes that would soon begin

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to shift our planet's tectonic plates.

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Well, beginning with the Northridge California earthquake, January 17th of 1994, a pattern

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of seismic earth changes seems to support Scalgan's predictions.

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The future.

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We want to know what it holds, if only for the reassurance that our lives on earth will

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be safe from catastrophe.

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But sudden changes to our planet are on the horizon, according to futurist Gordon Michael

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Scalgan.

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I can tell you that the earth is going to open up in California and I can tell you exactly

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where it will open up.

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Scalgan made this prediction in early 1993, nearly one year before the devastating Northridge

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quake.

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It will occur in the greater Los Angeles region.

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The bridges and highways, especially the bridges that cross other bridges, will come down.

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The damage will be extensive.

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Scalgan was right.

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Los Angeles was rocked by the worst earthquake ever recorded in the area.

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Late, we anxiously returned to Scalgan's rural New Hampshire retreat to find out if

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the monster quake had altered his bleak outlook for the future.

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The Northridge was a quite different quake.

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The most significant thing was that it was a vertical quake, which we had been predicting

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for two years.

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The warning was watch for vertical quakes.

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When they start, then the domino effect will occur, in particular 94 and 95.

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And then it will increase each year literally tenfold.

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So by 96 and 97, it literally will change the face of the earth.

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The result of these cataclysmic earth changes are illustrated in Scalgan's future map of

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the United States.

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It shows a terrifying version of America, much of it underwater as we approach the year

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If I look to the year 98, 99, 2000, what I see by that time is that many of the major

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changes have already occurred.

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The Ring of Fire is the predominant pattern or the predominant region of the globe that

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The entire western coast of North America falls well within this Ring of Fire.

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It's a huge section of the Earth's crust made up of highly active plates, which lie

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underneath the Pacific Ocean.

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The next major warning sign that would indicate significant unprecedented changes for America

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will occur in the Cascades region.

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Should Mount Rainier become active, then we will see a breaking up of the complete west

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coast as to make islands where there was permanent land mass.

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Scalgan's vision may seem alarmist to many, but the sobering truth is that reports of

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significant earth changes are on the rise.

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There have been an estimated 20,000 earthquakes and volcanic eruptions within the Ring of

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Fire in the past year, including major disasters in Indonesia and the Sea of Japan.

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The Ring of Fire has been active, but it's accelerating.

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We are now going to start seeing a brand new pattern.

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The new pattern is that areas that were never active, where we never expected they were

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false, we're going to now start seeing land movement there.

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Perhaps the most frightening of all is the fact that mainstream seismologists and geologists

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are also learning support to Scalgan's theories.

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Thomas Henye is director of the Southern California Earthquake Center.

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Up until very recently, the dominant view amongst geologists and geophysicists with respect

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to how the world behaves is that things change gradually with time.

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But we're beginning to see more and more that there are episodes of very rapid change occurring

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in the earth from time to time.

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Are we in just such a period of rapid change?

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Is the domino effect in recent earth changes a harbinger of bigger catastrophes just months

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away?

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Gordon Michael Scalgan says yes, but also understands he has a responsibility for the

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predictions he makes.

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I tend to wait until I see things occur over and over again in my visions before I make

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a statement on it.

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Dyer predictions about the future of planet earth may grab the headlines, but not all

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the news coming from futurist is bleak.

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On upcoming editions of sightings, we'll bring you more predictions that offer hope for a

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brighter future.

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When sightings continues.

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The pyramids, lords, Stonehenge, places of power that for centuries have had an inexplicable

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attraction.

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What makes these places so special?

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Earth scientist Paul Devereux believes sacred sites may give off an energy that affects

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people subconsciously.

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To prove his theory, Devereux is conducting a long term experiment called the Dragon Project.

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He's documenting the dreams of people who volunteer to sleep at sacred sites.

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Why do people come from all over the world to stare at this pile of rocks?

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Why do people have spontaneous hallucinations inside this 5,000 year old cabin?

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Paul Devereux believes it's not history or superstition that creates a sacred site.

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That's something in the rock, some kind of magnetic energy or radiation that changes

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people physically and emotionally.

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Is there something about the actual site memory, if you like, the actual place memory of a

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monument that can affect us in subtle ways that we're not directly conscious of?

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But how can a scientist prove that energy from these sites affects the subconscious?

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Devereux believes the way in is through our dreams.

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Dreaming is the one universal experience shared by every man, woman and child since the beginning

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of time.

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While the physical body rests, the mind shuttles through a surreal movie that's meaning is

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still not understood.

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Are we simply processing random brain waves reacting to a rich dessert eaten before bedtime?

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Or are dreams the window into the essence of our consciousness?

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Devereux believes the latter and is testing his theory by having volunteers spend the

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night at several sacred sites throughout England.

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When rapid eye movement is observed, the volunteers are awakened and their dreams recorded.

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In your own time Tom, you can tell me a little bit of what you've been experiencing.

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Oh, right.

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Amazing.

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So coming clear.

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We're not interpreting their dream for them, but what we are doing is looking at a site

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and if we say, okay, there's 20 people, perhaps 40 dreams here.

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Is there anything in those dreams that is specific just to the site?

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World renowned dream expert Dr. Stanley Kripner is assisting in the collation and analysis

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of the dreams.

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Kripner has seen the effects of radiation on dream subjects in the laboratory.

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But this is the first ever field study.

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Together, they visit the site's chosen for the Dragon Project.

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I've measured the interior of this chamber and also the King's Chamber and the Great

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Pyramid in Egypt and they're identical because of course the King's Chamber is also clad

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in granite, aswan granite.

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And it just makes us wonder a little if that was a factor to help create an environment

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where altered states could develop visionary states.

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Because on the Dragon Project, we have had a few examples of spontaneous occurrences

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of people suddenly having very vivid, very short lived hallucinations.

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And they've always been in areas of high radiation.

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I think that he is one of the few people who is looking into the impact and the influence

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of natural radiation on people's consciousness.

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Madren Well is another supernatural site.

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Since the sixth century, people have come here, looked into the waters and reportedly

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seen the future.

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Madren Well was the inspiration for the entire project because it was here that Devereux

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himself had an extraordinary dream.

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I had a dream in which I just saw a pair of hands just in front of me and they were dipping

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into the water.

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And the water came up dripping and in the dream, the hands massaged around the eyes

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in a particular way.

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And I immediately woke up and I went over to the water in the corner and went through

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those very actions that I'd seen in the dream.

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Madren Wood Dragon Project volunteers have the same dream.

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If so, this could prove his theory of site-specific dreaming.

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At Carnuni, the ruins of an ancient Cornish village, Devereux and Krippner examined the

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site of that evening's dream session.

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The granite, because we're underground, the granite walls, the ceiling, these great slabs

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here give out a lot of radioactivity so the radon level in here is much higher than outside.

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We do have evidence from psychology that if you put somebody in a special chamber and

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alter the level of radioactivity or alter the electrical field, they will begin to have

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unusual experiences.

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They will see things, they will feel things, they will even sometimes hear voices.

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So I'm here to give advice in terms of collecting, scoring dreams and to see what objects come

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up in the dreams and to find out if indeed there are certain clusters of themes and objects

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that relate to one place that do not relate to another geographical location.

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That night, volunteers for the dream session arrived at Carnuni to begin their part of

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the research project.

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Tom?

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Oh.

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Can you just grab your things and serve this little?

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Yeah.

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No, don't disturb yourself too much.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think you've been having a dream.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Well, hold on for a moment while I just turn the tape recorder on and then you can tell

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me about it, okay?

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What was that?

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The Dragon Project is ongoing and will continue into 1995.

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While the analysis is not complete, some intriguing information is already surfacing.

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If Paul does get some very striking results, it's yet another example of how a natural

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location can affect people's behavior.

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If the natural radiation in these sacred sites is proven to have a measurable effect

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on our minds, the implications are far reaching.

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Are we truly the product of our environment?

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And what other forces of nature are shaping our subconscious?

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Will it one day be shown that the phosphorus in the seeds, the chlorophyll in the rainforests,

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and sadly, the ozone in the air, make us who we are?

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Paul Devereux expects to complete the first stage of the Dragon Project within the next

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year.

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All of the dreams that he's collected will then be turned over to Dr. Stanley Kripner

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for his collaboration and analysis at the Saybrook Institute in San Francisco.

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Coming up next on Sightings, new theories on a UFO crash in Canada.

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And a boy beats the odds with a miracle cure.

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Later, why did the government abruptly shut down the search for extraterrestrials?

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On past episodes, Sightings investigated videotape of an alleged UFO supplied by an anonymous

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source, known only as Guardian.

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At first, the so-called Guardian tape of what appears to be a UFO crash landing looked very

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convincing.

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But as we move deeper into the investigation, our questions started to outnumber the answers.

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These images were touted as some of the best photographic evidence of UFOs ever recorded.

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A videotape, with several short scenes cut together, arrived at the Sightings offices

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with no return address.

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A label on the videotape had only one word, Guardian.

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Who was Guardian?

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And had he, or she, actually captured a UFO crash landing on videotape?

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Some experts now believe Guardian was part of the U.S. government's rumored UFO disinformation

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program.

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They believe that hoaxes and absurd tabloid headlines are planted by the Pentagon to discredit

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the UFOs.

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And in 1991, somebody decided that they would put together this UFO hoax and put out a video.

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After the videotape was distributed worldwide, official looking documents began to surface.

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Some were written on Canadian government stationery.

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Then still photographs of supposedly extraterrestrial creatures were released.

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These were an obvious tip-off that a hoax was being perpetrated.

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So, we enlisted the help of Mufon Canada's assistant director, Tom Theophanus, and photoanalyst, Jeff Seino.

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The documents are purported to be Department of National Defense Canadian military documents,

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but just a quick read of them shows that they're obviously falsified.

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You see statements like insatiable sex drive.

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Their women prefer human partners.

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Blonde types infiltrate the artistic centers of Canada.

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It appears they need artists to get the message out.

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He's obviously such hokey documents that there's no doubt that these are falsified.

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Once we know that, we have to go back and take a look at the video and say,

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since we know that Guardian is a hoaxer, is there anything exceptional in this video

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that could not have been hoaxed by a fairly motivated person?

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I couldn't find anything.

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Well, and here you see two light sources.

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One coming in from the area of the flares is producing this reddish glow.

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And the source that's off, mainly off the ground, an external source of lighting.

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And you also have the shrub light on top, which you can see the actual shape of it.

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Here we're seeing what appear to be four road flares.

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You can see the smoke wafting off toward this direction the same way that we see on the UFO later on.

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Over here the UFO is badly overexposed. You really can't make it out in detail.

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There's no motion there. Nothing but a strobe light on top that's anything out of the ordinary.

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What would it take to duplicate these images?

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Sightings asked a special effects team to try and recreate the Guardian video.

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They used a scale model helicopter, an asbestos line truck, and road flares.

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Okay, you want to show me?

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First, the team placed the helicopter in a position similar to that on the Guardian video.

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Next, technicians set up a strobe light and road flares to match those used in Canada.

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Special effects smoke was added, and the result is not unlike that in the original Guardian video.

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Depending on how much smoke was added, the silhouette of the helicopter could look like a UFO crash landing.

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We tried to improve on these images using a pickup truck and the same basic flare and smoke effects.

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Again, the images were similar, but like the sophistication of the original tape, the alien creature was much easier to duplicate.

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A 10-year-old girl, a rubber head, and black and white film was all we needed.

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To the untrained eye, these creatures might seem like the real thing,

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and that's just what the hoaxers want you to believe.

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But who are they? Psychotherapist Dr. Howard Schachter explains his theory.

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It's been said, of course, that hoaxsterism is all about personal gain.

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Very often, the hoaxer is aware of what's at stake.

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The individuals are aware that there's something they're going to gain from all of this.

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They want to be a part of this great phenomenon, and they're used to, let's say,

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aggrandizing their self-esteem by virtue of seeing that the Guardian event is on every TV channel.

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But is it realistic to believe that the Guardian videotape, the forged documents, and the photographs

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were all the work of one individual longing for fame?

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Or could it be that Guardian is part of a larger conspiracy fueled by our own government?

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How do experts separate reality from hoax?

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Joining me now is Michael Lindemann.

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He is an independent analyst whose company, the 2020 Group, conducts in-depth UFO investigations.

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There are a lot of people who believe that disinformation is part of the conspiracy

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and cover-up that surrounds the dismissal of UFOs by governments.

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Is there any information that disinformation exists in the videos themselves

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that somehow high-tech is being used to persuade or dissuade people?

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I think that we have seen some possibly extraordinary videotape that was probably, you could say, disinformation.

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The so-called Guardian case from Canada would be, I think, in that category.

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Is there any evidence that any government is involved in that sort of disinformation?

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Well, I can't speak for the videotape part of it, but as for other forms of disinformation,

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I would have to say almost certainly yes.

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Governments are involved in creating the illusion of certain events or effects that are probably hoaxes.

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If it's possible to penetrate the hoax immediately, and if UFO researchers proclaim it a hoax,

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I think in some ways that helps the cause.

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At least it proves that not everyone is duped by this.

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Michael Lindemann, thank you very much for talking with us.

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Thank you.

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And we'll be back with more sightings in just a moment.

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When sightings continues, a remarkable story of a young boy who baffled doctors.

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He thought he was going to die.

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Prayer, a time of meditation and reflection, is part of nearly every belief system in the world.

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For millennia, people have drawn great strength from these private moments of concentrated thought.

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Now physician Larry Dossi is finding tangible evidence that many forms of prayer can not only heal the spirit,

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but heal the body as well.

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A loved one teeters on the brink of death.

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While doctors do everything they can, the family feels helpless.

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All they can do is pray.

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But now clinical tests are proving that those prayers can work miracles.

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They did for six-year-old Taylor Hall.

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It was very tragic for our family.

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It was a bright sunny day.

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He took a skate out.

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And then my son, Chris, was in the front bedroom and he heard the truck screech.

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You could hear the truck coming down the corner.

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You could hear it as it kind of screech.

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Because Taylor was coming down the sidewalk.

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And as he hit the sidewalk, he hit the patch of rocks and he couldn't stop himself in time.

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Fire department came and ambulances came.

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He was very sick.

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I think you know that the minute that you see someone who is very hurt, you know it right away.

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He was in a pool of blood.

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He lost over four and a half units in the street, which is almost half your body's blood.

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And he was ripped open from his navel all the way to the back.

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Young Taylor Hall's life hung in the balance.

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Although he had the best in medical care, no one could guarantee that the best would be good enough.

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Could the prayers of his family make a difference?

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Near Santa Fe, New Mexico, one place stands as a testament to the power of prayer.

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For nearly 200 years, people have come to El Sanjuario de Chimayo to pray,

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often leaving behind the crutches and wheelchairs they no longer need.

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Dr. Larry Dossy studies the accounts of healing by prayer that continue to this day.

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The question for us in science is, can we go beyond people's stories

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and make anything scientific out of the personal account?

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That's the great challenge.

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Dr. Dossy has written a best-selling book that chronicles the positive effects of prayer,

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a subject considered entirely anecdotal and unsubstantiated until just a few years ago.

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I discovered, however, back in the mid-80s that there were some studies coming out

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showing that if you take prayer into the clinic or the hospital or the laboratory

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and test it pretty much like you would in new medication,

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you can actually show that prayer does something.

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Religious affiliation and religious belief are not factors in these experiments.

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In the 1980s, medical researchers in Oregon devised an experiment

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to test the power of prayer under controlled laboratory conditions.

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In a double-blind study, test tubes were filled with equal amounts of yeast and sealed.

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Half of the tubes were prayed over by volunteers, half were not.

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Researchers were amazed that there was a significant difference in the tubes that had been prayed over.

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You can do this with extreme accuracy,

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and the differences in the growth rates are quite profound,

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favoring those that get prayed for.

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It frequently is the case in the history of medicine that we have known that something works

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before we know how it works.

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Penicillin was an example.

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When penicillin was discovered, no one had a clue about actually how it worked,

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we honored the data, we did the studies and we could show that it did something.

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We're at the same point with prayer.

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We haven't the foggiest idea scientifically how it could work,

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but we have taken it into the laboratory, we have done the precise studies,

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we have shown that it works.

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Bolstered by the remarkable results found in the yeast experiment,

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San Francisco General Hospital launched its own power of prayer study.

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Volunteers were asked to pray for patients they did not know.

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393 patients were prayed for over a 10 month period.

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We had the prayers do so only outside of the hospital, they never came inside the hospital,

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and the patients never saw them,

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and we didn't produce any standard prayer or prayer format.

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After analyzing the data, the results were impressive.

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The patients who received extra prayer from our groups outside of the hospital

468
00:33:37,220 --> 00:33:47,220
required less diuretic therapy, less antibiotics, and had less cardiac arrest.

469
00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:54,220
In Riverside, California, Taylor Hall's family didn't know about the results of the San Francisco General study.

470
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:56,220
They prayed because they felt they had to.

471
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Their little boy was dying.

472
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His entire pelvis was crushed under the tires.

473
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:08,220
I had grave doubts about being able to put his intestinal tract back together.

474
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:12,220
The damage was so extensive in the pelvic area.

475
00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:18,220
He had huge open wounds, again very susceptible to infection.

476
00:34:18,220 --> 00:34:23,220
There was a very good possibility that the infection that might have gotten in there

477
00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:26,220
would be the thing that would end up killing him.

478
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:33,220
The next thing we were told was that if he made it through that,

479
00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:38,220
that there would be a possibility that one, he might not be able to have children.

480
00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:41,220
He might have to have a colostomy the rest of his life.

481
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:45,220
His ability to walk might be impeded substantially.

482
00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:48,220
He thought he was going to die.

483
00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:54,220
I think that scared the nurses a little bit because they said when patients think that they're going to die,

484
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:57,220
then it's pretty serious.

485
00:34:57,220 --> 00:35:01,220
But the family never lost their faith and dedication to prayer.

486
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:08,220
That mysterious force that now has mainstream medicine rethinking its power to heal.

487
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:14,220
The fact that prayer can work says that the consciousness, the human psyche, the mind,

488
00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:17,220
can do something that brains can't do.

489
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:22,220
Therefore, the mind must in some strange way be more than the brain and the body.

490
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:29,220
The mind has some aspect, some quality, which can reach out through space and time

491
00:35:29,220 --> 00:35:34,220
as is evidenced through prayer and make a difference at a distance.

492
00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:39,220
In the end, prayer may have been the difference for Taylor Hall.

493
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:40,220
We were both at the hospital.

494
00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:45,220
Steve and I, I think, I know I did, prayed on the way to the hospital.

495
00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:47,220
And the family prayed as a family.

496
00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:53,220
It just seemed we were all on the same level, doing the same thing for the same purpose.

497
00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:56,220
And we all wanted the same thing and that was for Taylor to recover.

498
00:35:56,220 --> 00:36:03,220
And I'm fully convinced that that was every bit as important a part as what the doctors did.

499
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:08,220
Not to downplay what the doctors did, but I think it was, they both worked together.

500
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:15,220
And when after six days, after being ripped open in intestines, all messed up,

501
00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:21,220
being, you know, his back ripped open, his pelvis broken, he was walking with no cast or pins.

502
00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:24,220
He just basically was kind of a miracle.

503
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:26,220
Yeah, I think it was a miracle.

504
00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:31,220
I think if somebody else had got run over and nobody prayed and he could have died.

505
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:35,220
It was my opinion that prayer helped 100%.

506
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:40,220
A lot of the stuff that we were able to do as doctors was relatively simple,

507
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:44,220
but the healing process was a long, extensive one with major injuries.

508
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:46,220
He's fully recovered.

509
00:36:46,220 --> 00:36:48,220
He doesn't have anything major wrong with him.

510
00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:50,220
He gets headaches now and then.

511
00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:52,220
But everything else on his body is normal.

512
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:55,220
In fact, he's above normal.

513
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:58,220
He's skating again.

514
00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:06,220
The healing power of prayer is gaining a wider acceptance.

515
00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:11,220
Harvard, Duke, Tufts and Stanford universities have all conducted studies

516
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:15,220
linking the power of the mind and the power to heal.

517
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:19,220
When sightings returns, our government was on a search for ET contact.

518
00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:20,220
Why did they stop?

519
00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:25,220
The alien signals are coming from an extraterrestrial intelligence somewhere.

520
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:34,220
In 1992, on the 500th anniversary of Columbus's voyage to the New World,

521
00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:38,220
NASA embarked on its own voyage to deep space.

522
00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:44,220
They devised a program called SETI, Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence.

523
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:45,220
Their mission?

524
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:50,220
Use the world's most powerful telescopes to search for signs of life in outer space.

525
00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:55,220
I think if our government knew that we got signals,

526
00:37:55,220 --> 00:38:01,220
a dedicated signal from outer space somewhere, they'd clamp a lid on it.

527
00:38:01,220 --> 00:38:04,220
After less than a year, Congress pulled the plug on SETI.

528
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:07,220
Some insiders claim it was because SETI had made contact

529
00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:11,220
and the government didn't want us to know what they knew.

530
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:13,220
The powers of being knew I was talking to you.

531
00:38:13,220 --> 00:38:15,220
There would be a high price for me to pay.

532
00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:19,220
Our anonymous source is an engineer inside the space program.

533
00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:23,220
He's been warned not to go public with what he knows about SETI.

534
00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:28,220
He recalls an earlier time when there were fewer secrets and higher hopes.

535
00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:31,220
If they get nothing, it's been a worthwhile venture because we've tried.

536
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:34,220
If they get something, it'll be the greatest discovery of mankind.

537
00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:40,220
The search for extraterrestrial intelligence was launched October 14, 1992.

538
00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:43,220
Giant radio telescopes were aimed at the stars.

539
00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:48,220
Scientists and engineers listened to the cacophony of space noise,

540
00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:53,220
searching for radio signals that might indicate the presence of another advanced civilization.

541
00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:59,220
It was used pretty much just like any other intelligence agency would use eavesdropping equipment,

542
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:01,220
except it was pointed up towards space.

543
00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:03,220
SETI was a breakthrough.

544
00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:06,220
After decades of rumors about covert UFO projects,

545
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:11,220
the United States government not only publicly acknowledged the possibility of intelligent life in outer space,

546
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:15,220
but agreed it was a possibility worth spending $100 million to explore.

547
00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:20,220
It's very hard to believe that the government would allow something this extraordinary

548
00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:25,220
to be released to the general public without scrutiny and censorship.

549
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:33,220
Almost as soon as SETI went online, our anonymous source claims that scientists started receiving intelligent signals from deep space.

550
00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:38,220
They called these artificial radio waves hits.

551
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:40,220
There were hits that were taken seriously.

552
00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:44,220
There were three or four hits to my knowledge that were strong,

553
00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:52,220
and it could potentially be a signal from an extraterrestrial intelligence on a foreign body in space.

554
00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:59,220
Located in the Mojave Desert at Fort Irwin, California,

555
00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:06,220
Goldstone Station is a quiet, isolated place where scientists have seclusion and military security.

556
00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:11,220
It's RF quiet, which means there's not a lot of background noise when they're looking for signals.

557
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:16,220
And it's in an optimum area. It's very dry. It doesn't get cold.

558
00:40:16,220 --> 00:40:19,220
It's really ideal for this type of search.

559
00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:23,220
But ideal conditions weren't enough to satisfy some in Congress.

560
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:25,220
They wanted SETI stamped out.

561
00:40:25,220 --> 00:40:32,220
Just one year after the radio telescope atop Goldstone Station began directing an all-out microwave search of the universe,

562
00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:35,220
Congress suddenly called a halt to everything.

563
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:39,220
The SETI project, I think, was just a sacrificial lamp.

564
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:43,220
It was a cheap shot for the budget posers, for the so-called deficit hawks.

565
00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:49,220
It's always easy to make fun of something that you or enough of your constituents don't understand.

566
00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:55,220
But some believe the cancellation was a red herring, designed to keep the public from asking too many questions.

567
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:59,220
If they embrace the concept of looking for alien signals,

568
00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:06,220
they also have to acknowledge the fact that the alien signals are coming from an extraterrestrial intelligence somewhere.

569
00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:15,220
And for certain people, that's not something that they want to either believe in or allow anybody to know that they believe in.

570
00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:23,220
Some close to the project allege the National Security Agency quashed SETI in an effort to suppress findings so bizarre,

571
00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:27,220
they felt it would send the public into a media-induced panic.

572
00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:35,220
Their history in action in the past is a good warning of what they would do if something like this happened.

573
00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:39,220
But at the same time the government was supposedly dismantling SETI,

574
00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:43,220
private companies came forward with millions of dollars in donations.

575
00:41:43,220 --> 00:41:48,220
Hewlett Packard, Intel, Microsoft and others helped resurrect SETI,

576
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:51,220
and from the ashes they created Project Phoenix.

577
00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:56,220
But rumors still abound concerning government involvement in this new incarnation of SETI.

578
00:41:57,220 --> 00:42:01,220
The government likes to have control in varying degrees.

579
00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:05,220
They have to have control at least a little.

580
00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:10,220
Perhaps most suspect of all is the fact that Project Phoenix, like its predecessor,

581
00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:14,220
still has ties to Goldstone Station on a military installation.

582
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:17,220
If the hits do come down, they will be suppressed.

583
00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:19,220
I don't think anybody will take a chance.

584
00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:24,220
The government would never make that leap of faith that the public would be able to handle

585
00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:30,220
the fact that we are receiving intelligence signals from another race, creature,

586
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:33,220
something from somewhere else.

587
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:41,220
SETI was not the only government-funded program searching for signs of intelligent life in the cosmos.

588
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:48,220
JPL, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, had begun an all-sky survey in 1993.

589
00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:53,220
But it too has been abruptly halted with no plans for resumption.

590
00:42:58,220 --> 00:43:03,220
If you've had a paranormal experience, call the Sightings Hotline at 1-900-933-SITE.

591
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:06,220
That's 1-900-933-7444.

592
00:43:06,220 --> 00:43:10,220
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593
00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:15,220
Sightings is also online. Our email addresses sightings at aol.com.

594
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Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind.

595
00:43:21,220 --> 00:43:24,220
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596
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597
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